: The Derveni Papyrus: Cosmology, Theology and Interpretation ( ): Gábor Betegh: Books. Sep 16, Any discussion of the Derveni Papyrus (DP) ought to begin by relating how a carbonized scroll was discovered in , in the remains of a. The opening columns of the Derveni papyrus, an extraordinarily weird literary text of the late 5th century bce that was copied in the 4th century and rediscovered.

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Some other scholars have also seen Anaxagorean influence in the “theory of matter” at work in the DP. For the initiate, the natural explanation and the eschatology coincide. These questions remain unanswered. Replies to my comment.

Derveni Papyrus, Introduction

Public Lecture on Detveni 3. The Derveni papyrus is degveni ancient Macedonian papyrus roll that was found in The bottom part of the papyrus was consumed by the flames, and only cm of the upper half escaped.

He finds a model for the link in Heraclitus, which he explores in a key chapter: But Orpheus did not intend to tell them captious riddles, but momentous things in riddles. The CHS is dedicated to the reassertion of the humanism of the ancient world, centering on Hellenic civilization in its widest sense.

Iris rainbow, the messenger of the gods, is really papurus nature cloud, says Xenophanes. Betegh says “the most probable general characterization of the author … is that he was a priestly figure with Orphic allegiance” p.

Nous sets this mass in motion, and it is from the resulting rotation that the world as we perceive it developed DK 58 B1, B Technology has enabled researchers to decipher four more columns of the Derveni Papyrus, now completing the text at 26 columns. For if they neither understand, nor do they learn, [it is not possible that they believe] even when they see … [9] Betegh explicates, Moral betterment is a precondition both for piety and gain in knowledge about the divine.


Betegh argues that the Derveni author is well-versed in the cosmological theories of the Presocratics, and is trying to be up to date in his views p. Institute for Philosophical Research,pp.

The cult of the Erinyes in the Derveni Papyrus

Yet, as both Plato’s Socrates in the Phaedo and Aristotle argued, it is not clear that Anaxagoras’ Nous is anything more than an efficient cause; it papyris not, later Greek philosophers argued, decide anything, and acts more like a motor than a rational mind. Thus, for him, the divine cannot simply reduce to the natural, but rather, the workings of the divine must be present in the natural.

The Proceedings are now available here. This is a fascinating suggestion, yet I find it rather fantastic. Walter de Gruyter, Betegh recognizes that it is highly conjectural.

But all those who hope to acquire knowledge? The main body of the papyrus contains a commentary on an early Orphic theogony, wherein generations of gods succeed one another by means of violence and rape. The Sexiest Temples in India.

Derveni papyrus – Wikipedia

As he also makes clear in the well-chosen verse: Overcome by fault and by pleasure as well, they neither learn, nor believe. For, like the medical practitioner, the Derveni author wants to heal us: The text was not officially published for forty-four years after its discovery though three partial editions were published. This view of the relation between understanding and religious piety is not peculiar to the Derveni author.


For Heraclitus in the passage quoted, cosmic and eschatological guidance, justice and surveillance are closely related or even identical functions of the supreme power, fire… the Derveni author would agree with much of this — except that last word, fire… Pace Heraclitus it is not the thunderbolt which steers the world, but Zeus, and the thunderbolt is but a tool in his hand.

Betegh goes farther, finding in the Heraclitus quotation a model of the connection between cosmology and eschatology that the author is making throughout the papyrus. Due to the existence of unplaced fragments, this exceptionally challenging document is still being reconstructed.

This page was last edited on 25 Novemberat However, the text contained within may be from the 5th Century BC. In Empedocles we find exactly the sorts of connections that Betegh needs for his interpretation of the Derveni author’s intentions.

The god of the papyrus is identified with Mind or Nous ; Anaxagoras’ Nous is the motive cause of the cosmos. Only small fragments of lines, some with hardly any legible letters, remain from the badly damaged first columns. The first surviving columns of the text are less well preserved, but talk about occult ritual practices, including sacrifices to the Erinyes Furieshow to remove daimones that become a problem, and the beliefs of the magi.